I was just checking some of my own, really old articles and saw you'd added info from Star Trek: Defiant to the USS Wayfarer (NCC-10536). I think there's been a slight mixup. I created that ship in my fanfic back in 2000, with that registry. If there's a USS Wayfarer in Defiant, it's a different ship. Does the audio drama say their Wayfarer is Ambassador-class? Or is it not specified? Does it give a registry number? 'Cause I'm sure it's not the same as mine, which was based on the facilities code for where I worked at the time.
If there's more in the Defiant audios than just the name, we can use that to disambiguate the ships into separate articles, because they are different vessels, in different continuities.
My Apologies. I've been following Defiant, and have been trying to fill out the pages. In Star Trek: Defiant, The Wayfarer was the Command ship for the joint Federation/Cardassian Task force at Docent Sigma, so it was reasonable to deduce it was a ship of a larger class. Your description of the Wayfarer as an Ambassador class ship was a good fit, so I intergrated it. So no, the class is not specified in Defiant. If it bothers you, I will remove the entry.
Oh, no, please, nothing to apologize for. You didn't do anything wrong. I don't mind, I just want to make sure we're reflecting the actual information as best as possible. If Defiant said it was an Ambassador class ship, this would be perfectly acceptable. We could just add a note that the registry number might be different in Defiant.
But since it's not specified, the Wayfarer from Defiant needs its own article. Otherwise, it's kinda like we're putting words in the writers' mouths, and deciding something for them that they may not have intended.
There's no rush to fix it, just whenever you can get around to it. I'd make the changes myself (including fixing the links from other Defiant-related articles), but without knowing the source at all, I don't know enough to really make the best description possible.
Again, not a problem, nothing to feel bad about. We just want to be as accurate to each source as possible. --TimPendragon (talk) 21:41, March 30, 2020 (UTC)
Hey I've taken the liberty to start cleaning up the Laine Rael article to show you what this wiki wants regarding articles. If you go to edit the article in the source mode, you can see I have left comments in between <!-- --> brackets which might help show you want I mean.
The biggest changes I made were putting the links in, although there is probably a lot more work to do. You're more familiar with the source material than I am. Changes I have made include:
I've changed over most character mentions to use their last names as this is more encyclopedia-like than interchanging between first and last names.
Removed ranks and titles from headings (not needed)
In the Dreschik section, cleaned up the article quite a bit as it was telling a story, and it needs to be like an encyclopedia entry. (You'll need to do this to the rest of the article.)
In the source code, I've put where the episode links should go, using the <!-- --> brackets again.
Again, no one is "lecturing" you, but we're trying to point out the acceptable standard for articles and entries on STEU. There is a standard (and I believe there are articles on this wiki that explain what is required), and everyone needs to follow the rules to ensure consistency.
I hope the changes and notes I have made help, but please:
Read and comprehend what we are trying to tell you regarding bringing your articles up to standard.
Work on the articles that you've added on here first to get the up to the right standard before adding others. (Why I say this is, the more articles on here with the incorrect formatting, etc., the more work it will make for you in cleaning it all up. More copyedit tags, more frustration for you.)
Ask if you're not sure. Please don't take offence or get defensive.
Thank you. I believe I understand what's required now. I shall intensify my efforts to bring the articles I've created up to stexpanded standards. I may need a little extra time to reference episode numbers and titles, as I have to go through them manually (listening to them.
It's all good. It does take a while to get into the "mode" when writing the articles (I even find that when I've been away for a while). With the episodes, don't worry about that immediately; as long as the article is sourced against a series (which I think it is, from memory), you should be good for now.
My tip is, when you are going through the episodes, write down or type up every single character, ship, alien, technology, et cetera you hear (or if you have the scripts still, read) so you can use that as a master list to reference within those articles and create a "References" area at the bottom of the episode article (for an example, see Howl (TCE episode)#References) which helps cross-reference things. It's a bit of work but rewarding once you get into the swing of things.
Again, if you need help, just let me or someone else know.
The Hull number for the Ares is NCC-1650 you have as 1860 in the ship specifications. And I believe that the class of the Ares would be a Battlecruier not a light cruiser. I believe the dimensions for the ship are (I believe it was Alex Peters that came up the dimensions) : 238 meters long; 127 meters wide; 49 meters in Ht. reference: http://www.pinterest.com/startrekaxanar/uss-ares/