If we don't want to use the (character) tag to differentiate between in-universe and real world people, what about tagging the other with (actor)? The problem with using (lieutenant commander), or any rank/position, is that the character holds several over the course of Hidden Frontier. I didn't just want to revert to (character), because you changed it for a reason, but maybe (Starfleet officer) would be more appropriate? Thoughts? --TimPendragon (talk) 20:17, January 20, 2020 (UTC)
Hidden Frontier and Angleles did this a lot. They just named the character after the actor. So there will probably be more instances of this, down the road, notably for Jennifer Cole (actor) and Jennifer Cole (character). The thing about just labeling her "actor" is that she we just as prominent a director and you couldn't label her character Jennifer Cole (Commodore) because she had about three different ranks.
Hi guys. Good points. Yeah, we should avoid the usage "character" as the disam. I think the titling should be as close to "in-universe-ing" as possible. (Unless the character is an actual character in-universe, like in a holo-novel or something)
Yes, definitely, if the rank is in flow, then it should be something else. I may update our naming/disam guidelines to make them more definitive. Here are some disam uses I've come across here and Memory Beta/Alpha:
Name (Lieutenant) <-- Rank based
Name (USS Enterprise) <-- Ship based
Name (Starfleet) <-- Organizational
Name (Donatu V) <-- Planet based
Name (24th century) <--Century based
I think there should be a hierarchy of usage based on what makes the most sense per case, starting with the smallest scale (Rank) to largest (24th century), or whatever makes the most sense for that character. Maybe it also depends on what available information there is on that character.
Some other disams that might come before rank, that I came across:
Name (scientist) <-- Profession based if not in an organization
Name (mirror) <-- Universe based
Name (Klingon) <-- Species based
Maybe using "actor" or "director" to give a real world article disambiguation would work. I couldn't find any real world article examples though. But your point, Kirby, about said prominence makes sense. Perhaps she would get her name without a disam in this case, and the disambiguation article would be:
Jennifer Cole (disambiguation)
EDIT: Changed "Name (Starfleet officer)" to "Name (Starfleet)"
In the case of the Jason Munoz character, I would say Jason Munoz (Starfleet officer) would be the best fit. He was seen in episodes of Angeles and Hidden Frontier serving on different ships, holding different ranks, but ultimately he was a Starfleet officer. The same is true for the character of Jennifer Cole, when that article comes into existence.
I see that you also live in Toronto. I am looking for a writer to assist with the development of a Star Trek fan film project. You would receive a writing credit and potentially a producer credit, on the finished film. Also, the film and your associated credit(s) would appear on the Internet Movie Database (IMDb). Let me know if this interests you and in the new year we can discuss further.
STAR TREK expanded Universe is not a cannon website it is a Wiki Website so Star Trek Fans can bring new ideas to your website for star trek Fans to enjoy everything I've seen on this website has shown pictures of people that aren't even in the star trek universe. There are none star trek people who have created ship names and hull numbers that don't even exist in the star trek universe. The truth is that it look's like Website is Discriminating on the USS Kongo ship name because it is a Japanese Battleship in World War II. In my opinion this wrong to not allow new ideas from star trek Fans to be able to bring things to this website to share with Star Trek Expanded Universe with ship names hull numbers for Fans to enjoy. It is clear to me that this Website is not fair to allow new ideas to be brought to this Website, that's what Wikipedia is all about, was allowing people from all over the world to help this website with new stuff. I think Star Trek Paramount Pictures would like to know how their fans are being treated on this Website. (PS) Have a nice day, and go ahead and delete my stuff on the USS Kongo 1710-D. I have already taken a picture of it.
Hi, Hawku. I notice that there are already articles on this wiki about Fanfiction.net stories. What are the rules regarding articles about Fanfiction.net content? I tried searching, but couldn't find any rules in the project namespace.
Could the wiki use another either mod or admin? I just marked the page for the U.S.S. Banting for deletion as there's not been any activity in 48 hrs, and all attempts to contact the original creator have failed.
I NEED IT TO BE A EXPLORER CLASS AND I NEED IT TO BE IN SERVICE IN THE YEAR 2374 FOR MY STORY.
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James Gulleson, Jul 19, 4:17 PM UTC:USS RELIANT NEBULA CLASS
I'm doing a story for star trek TWGuild and getting ready to post my first story and I was gonna go with the USS Nebula but I would love to use the USS Reliant as a Nebula class starship if it would be OK with you. The story takes place in the year 2374. I can't do it with the 2379 that has been posted for the 2379 year and the ship need's to be a explorer class. Can you work with me on ship please? I would love to have the Reliant nebula Class. I think you will love this story that I'm doing. I need the Reliant nebula class to be in service some time around 2370 to 73 if you can do that for me and also it would need to be a explorer class for this story to work. please let me know what you can work with on this ship for me. any thing will help my story and just maybe star trek might just pick up the story and make it canon in the star trek TVs shows. Also if every thing is a go I will be willing to work with you on the ship in the story and you would be able to work with me and see the ship come to alive is the star trek universe. please help me and let's see the Reliant be born again in a new light.
Hello, Hawku. I have been working on the Star Trek: Defiant pages for a few weeks now. I have all of the episodes stored digitally as well as on CDs. I have been using them as my reference when I have been expanding on the entries. I also do Outpost and Excelsior. The problem I've been having is this: I keep getting copyediting messages on my work, and it's always from the same person, USS Cantabrian (I think that's how it's spelled.) Anyway, I ask for suggestions, I get lectures. I promise, I am working very hard to be true and accurate to the source material, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I am continuously reviewing my material for errors and making corrections, and it still isn't enough. Please, I'm asking for assistance, not another lecture. I believe in stexpanded, and I want to continue contributing.
Also some parts of some articles read like publicity material or the actual story instead of an encyclopedic entry.
Material needs to be sourced, even if it's just the series name for now, linking to the series page on here (even if it doesn't exist yet). If you know the name of the episode / story, put the link into the article as well (just make sure you disambiguate it if you need to). For example, the episode "Howl" from my series Star Trek: The Cantabrian Expeditions would show up as (''[[Star Trek: The Cantabrian Expeditions]]'': "[[Howl (TCE episode)|Howl]]") after the relevant information, which produces "(Star Trek: The Cantabrian Expeditions: "Howl")".
I don't think that's a lecture; I think that's just pointing out what you need to do to match other articles on here.
We're all believe in STEU, and that's why we work hard to ensure all articles meet the same standards that long-established contributors like me have worked towards standardising over the years. (And I've been here for 11 1/2 years :))
Hi Commander Cross. Keep in mind you can also start a dialogue on the Talk pages of the articles that get tagged or edits on. The edit summary comments are a bit harder to track and respond to. Side note, is there any chance of you posting Star Trek: Defiant online somewhere so that the article is properly sourced? YouTube or Soundcloud might be a good fit.